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  • .50 Beowulf® (105 Data Loads, 50 Bullets & 13 Powders)

    I’ve been searching the internet forever in search of load recommendation for different bullets and powders and have discovered that there’s not a whole lot of it out there, but I was able to find and compile for all us a list of all of the internets recommendations. I have also included a link from where the information has come from so (PLEASE) read up first before attempting any of these loads. But at least now we have a great starting point to work from.

    This thread (attachments) contains the following information for the .50 Beowulf:
    • 105 different data loads
    • 13 different powders that were used within the load data offered
    • 50 different bullet manufactures, gr used in the load data offered

    Here is the list of (50) bullets you’ll find load data on
    Aerotip (3)
    295gr - 300gr - 348gr

    Alliance Armament (1)
    600gr

    Barnes (3)
    275gr XPB - 325gr XM - 325gr XPB

    Hawk: (1)
    400gr JSP

    Hornady: (4)
    300gr FTX - 500gr - 350gr XTP - 350gr JHP

    Lee: (2)
    350gr HP - 440gr

    Power Belt (10)
    245 – 270 - 270 Platinum Aerotip - 295 - 295 Aerotip - 296
    348 - 420g DG Steel tip - 530g DG Steel tip - 348g Aerotip

    Remington: (2)
    385gr CLHP - 385gr Midway Ultra Hollow Points

    Rainier: (5)
    335gr FMJ - 335gr FP - 335gr JHP - 334gr JHP - 400gr FP

    SinterFire (1)
    300gr Lead Free / Frangible

    Speer: (5)
    300gr - 325gr JHP - 350gr JHP - 350gr JSP- Gold Dot HP

    Sierra: (5)
    350gr JHP - 359gr JHP - 400gr JFP - 400gr SP - 400gr FP

    StrongArm (5)
    250gr Fragable - 250gr - 300gr - 400gr - 600gr

    Woodleigh (1)
    400gr FP

    Misc. (2)
    600gr Jacketed Boattail
    250gr Frangible poly tipped


    Here is the list of (13) Powders that will you’ll find load data on
    Alliant Reloader #7
    Accurate 1680
    Accurate 1681
    Accurate 1682
    AA #9
    Hodgdon Lil’ Gun
    Hodgdon 4227
    Hodgdon 110
    H4198
    IMR SR 4759
    Ramshot Enforcer
    Tight Group
    VihtaVouri


    Please feel free to add your recommendations to the list as well.

    Thank you for your time and have a great one

    Linkpimp http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...ff/patriot.gif


    P.S.
    CAUTION
    Ammunition reloading can be dangerous if done improperly and should not be attempted by persons not willing to read and follow instructions exactly. Children should not be permitted to reload ammunition without strict parental supervision. Always wear safety glasses when reloading and shooting. New and reloaded ammunition should only be used in modern guns in good condition. We do not accept responsibility for any reloaded ammunition as we have no control over the manufacture and storage of components or the loading procedure and techniques. Primers and gun powders, like gasoline and matches, can be dangerous if improperly handled
    or misused. It is expected that the person reloading is proficient in reloading or is acting under the supervision of another experienced reloader.
    Last edited by linkpimp; 10-14-2009, 05:13.

  • #2
    A quick question for experienced reloaders: I noticed the 334gr and the 600gr use lil' gun, but the 500 gr. use Reloader 7; why is that?
    Last edited by benlineberry; 09-11-2009, 10:41.

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    • #3
      Very good compilation of data and information. Thanks for the organization and time put into the project. This indeed is a very good start to assisting the reloaders in the crowd. Good Job!

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      • #4
        Better check for a typo on this load- seems crazy scary to me!!!

        "400gr Sierra SP, 48.1 grs AA#9"

        Oh, and thanks for the info linkpimp!

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        • #5
          Thanks!

          What a helping hand this is. Thanks for the compilation.

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          • #6
            Any chance anyone can run AA #9 with a 300gr bullet through Quickload? Little bit curious just because I use AA#9 with federal small pistol mag primers for my .40s&w IPSC loads. Have plenty of Lil' Gun, but makes me curious.

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            • #7
              I was wondering the same thing to try a bunch of W820 surplus powder I have. It loads between H110 and AA#9

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              • #8
                I would be glad to run any load thru Q/L.

                Info I need to run it properly is:

                Bullet manufacturer, weight and length
                COL you are going to use
                Barrel length
                Powder manufacturer and # on powder.

                Weight in grains of powder...Q/L calculates above the and below the weight

                Per the post of AA#9...is that Accurate #9?

                Contact me direct

                geabas@psci.net

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                • #9
                  Sticky this =)

                  +1 for sticky!! Would be great to have THIS MUCH info right on top of the loading Threads
                  Nice job and TY
                  ...and a suggestion to the rest of us, if this guy is willing to keep this updated...lets try to build loads that are not listed and have others verify them so they could be added =)

                  GB

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                  • #10
                    A quick question for experienced reloaders: I noticed the 334gr and the 600gr use lil' gun, but the 500 gr. use Reloader 7; why is that?

                    I use lil gun for all my loads. I have had no negative results with the lil gun. Reloader 7 is probably what they tested with to come up with the data.

                    33 grain Ranier is the closest to 334 I could find in the data.
                    Compare the following predicted by Q/L and form your own conclusions. REMEMBER!!! THESE ARE ONLY PREDICTIONS




                    Cartridge : .50 Beowulf
                    Bullet :.500, 335, FP Rainier
                    Useable Case Capaci: 57.523 grain H2O = 3.735 cm³
                    Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.150 inch = 54.61 mm
                    Barrel Length : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm
                    Powder : Hodgdon Lil'Gun


                    Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
                    incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
                    CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

                    Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
                    % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

                    -20.0 61 33.60 1492 1655 13700 3499 89.3 1.543
                    -18.0 63 34.44 1529 1740 14598 3617 90.6 1.497
                    -16.0 64 35.28 1567 1826 15549 3731 91.8 1.453
                    -14.0 66 36.12 1604 1914 16558 3841 92.9 1.412
                    -12.0 67 36.96 1641 2004 17627 3948 93.9 1.372
                    -10.0 69 37.80 1678 2095 18759 4050 94.9 1.333
                    -08.0 70 38.64 1715 2188 19960 4148 95.8 1.296
                    -06.0 72 39.48 1751 2281 21232 4242 96.6 1.261
                    -04.0 73 40.32 1787 2376 22581 4330 97.3 1.227
                    -02.0 75 41.16 1823 2473 24012 4413 97.9 1.195
                    +00.0 76 42.00 1859 2570 25523 4491 98.4 1.164
                    +02.0 78 42.84 1894 2668 27110 4563 98.9 1.134
                    +04.0 79 43.68 1929 2767 28780 4629 99.3 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
                    +06.0 81 44.52 1963 2867 30539 4690 99.6 1.078 ! Near Maximum !
                    +08.0 82 45.36 1997 2967 32390 4744 99.8 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
                    +10.0 84 46.20 2031 3068 34340 4793 99.9 1.026 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!



                    Cartridge : .50 Beowulf
                    Bullet : .500, 335, FP Rainier
                    Useable Case Capaci: 57.523 grain H2O = 3.735 cm³
                    Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.150 inch = 54.61 mm
                    Barrel Length : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm
                    Powder : Alliant Reloder- 7

                    Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
                    incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
                    CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

                    Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
                    % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

                    -20.0 75 38.40 1376 1408 12670 2983 68.1 1.621
                    -18.0 77 39.36 1413 1485 13510 3110 69.6 1.572
                    -16.0 79 40.32 1450 1565 14399 3238 71.1 1.524
                    -14.0 80 41.28 1488 1647 15345 3366 72.5 1.479
                    -12.0 82 42.24 1526 1731 16352 3494 74.0 1.436
                    -10.0 84 43.20 1563 1818 17421 3622 75.4 1.394
                    -08.0 86 44.16 1601 1908 18557 3749 76.8 1.354
                    -06.0 88 45.12 1640 2000 19766 3875 78.1 1.315
                    -04.0 90 46.08 1678 2094 21052 4001 79.4 1.278
                    -02.0 92 47.04 1716 2191 22421 4125 80.7 1.242
                    +00.0 94 48.00 1755 2291 23880 4247 81.9 1.207
                    +02.0 95 48.96 1793 2393 25430 4368 83.2 1.174
                    +04.0 97 49.92 1832 2497 27089 4487 84.3 1.142
                    +06.0 99 50.88 1871 2604 28858 4604 85.5 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
                    +08.0 101 51.84 1910 2714 30732 4718 86.6 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
                    +10.0 103 52.80 1949 2826 32726 4829 87.7 1.052 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by oldyeller View Post
                      Better check for a typo on this load- seems crazy scary to me!!!

                      "400gr Sierra SP, 48.1 grs AA#9"

                      Oh, and thanks for the info linkpimp!
                      QUICKLOAD PREDICTIONS

                      artridge : .50 Beowulf
                      Bullet : .500, 400, Sierra JSP 5400
                      Useable Case Capaci: 51.032 grain H2O = 3.313 cm³
                      Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.150 inch = 54.61 mm
                      Barrel Length : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm
                      Powder : Accurate No.9

                      Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
                      incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
                      CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

                      Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
                      % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

                      -20.0 48 24.00 1318 1543 17678 2525 95.8 1.573
                      -18.0 49 24.60 1344 1605 18618 2591 96.4 1.537
                      -16.0 50 25.20 1371 1669 19596 2655 97.0 1.500
                      -14.0 51 25.80 1397 1733 20611 2718 97.6 1.465
                      -12.0 52 26.40 1422 1797 21665 2778 98.0 1.432
                      -10.0 54 27.00 1448 1862 22759 2835 98.5 1.400
                      -08.0 55 27.60 1473 1927 23893 2891 98.8 1.369
                      -06.0 56 28.20 1498 1993 25070 2944 99.2 1.340
                      -04.0 57 28.80 1523 2059 26290 2995 99.4 1.311
                      -02.0 58 29.40 1547 2126 27555 3043 99.6 1.284
                      +00.0 60 30.00 1571 2192 28866 3089 99.8 1.258 ! Near Maximum !
                      +02.0 61 30.60 1595 2259 30225 3133 99.9 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
                      +04.0 62 31.20 1618 2326 31633 3173 100.0 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
                      +06.0 63 31.80 1641 2393 33092 3211 100.0 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                      +08.0 64 32.40 1664 2461 34603 3248 100.0 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                      +10.0 65 33.00 1687 2528 36169 3285 100.0 1.141 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oldyeller View Post
                        I was wondering the same thing to try a bunch of W820 surplus powder I have. It loads between H110 and AA#9
                        Only thing that bothers me about H110 is it pistol powder. As is W 296. It also requires almost a compact load. At least for magnum pistol loads.

                        Anybody back me up on this???

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by VA Bigbore View Post
                          Very good compilation of data and information. Thanks for the organization and time put into the project. This indeed is a very good start to assisting the reloaders in the crowd. Good Job!
                          Cool I got Kudos from a mod. You’re more than welcome sir, it took tons of hrs but I think well worth it in the end. I'm more than happy to share my research with others.

                          For what it worth! I read almost all of the 19 pages in the reloader section here and (Newbie reloader!) every question and problem that you’re experiencing with reloading has been asked & answered before! and can simply be found with the search button or simply start on the last page and work your way to page 1, trust me you’ll find everything there that your looking for and MORE..


                          Originally posted by oldyeller View Post
                          Better check for a typo on this load- seems crazy scary to me!!!

                          "400gr Sierra SP, 48.1 grs AA#9"

                          Oh, and thanks for the info linkpimp!
                          I went back to double check it wasn’t me misrepresenting anything (thank god) and yep that’s what the OP stated he uses. All the more reason to question and research fully each load before its used.

                          OOhh you’re more than welcome 



                          Originally posted by RUKUS View Post
                          What a helping hand this is. Thanks for the compilation.
                          It was my pleasure trust me, I understand the frustration I went though. I personally like to think of it as a foundation to build off of, now it up to us to learn from it and expand on it.

                          Thanks again for the kind words and have a great one




                          Originally posted by GBorGH View Post
                          +1 for sticky!! Would be great to have THIS MUCH info right on top of the loading Threads
                          Nice job and TY
                          ...and a suggestion to the rest of us, if this guy is willing to keep this updated...lets try to build loads that are not listed and have others verify them so they could be added =)

                          GB

                          Thanks for the kind words, a sticky would be nice but its not necessary, I’ll update this thread once and month with whatever is found helpful. (Everyone) Please feel free to post anything you find, BUT you must post a link to it so we can read about it too.

                          Thanks and have a great one




                          Originally posted by aslepathewhl View Post
                          Only thing that bothers me about H110 is it pistol powder. As is W 296. It also requires almost a compact load. At least for magnum pistol loads.

                          Anybody back me up on this???
                          Hey George thanks again for all the help these past few days..
                          But I’m a little complex on your statement above, sorry, but out of the 13 powders I found throughout the 82 loads other powders are pistol powders too including but not limited to (tightgroup, Lil” Gun, AA 9, and Viht).

                          Is your concern that since it’s a slower burning powder than rifle powder it requires more volume to fill the case, hence causing a compact load = High pressure?.

                          Hey thank you again for your time George and all of your help these past couple of days, have a great one Sir

                          Shaun


                          P.S. Team question.
                          I do have one big question I have been struggling with lately, even after reading 1000’s of post, is this a rifle round or a pistol round?.

                          I say that because I compare this round to the 500 S&W and they are almost identical to each other.

                          Beowulf
                          OAL = 2.200 (Per AA)
                          500 S&W
                          OAL = 2.280

                          Beowulf
                          400gr Jacketed FP + Viht N110 = 33gr Midle scale (per quick loads)
                          500 S&W
                          400gr jacketed FP + Viht N100 = 33gr Midle scale (Per Lyman 49th)

                          Beowulf
                          PSI / Pressure = ?? unkown
                          500 S&W
                          PSI / Pressure = (37k-47ishk)

                          Beowulf
                          Velocity = up to 1600 (per AA website)
                          500 S&W
                          Velocity = up to 1600 (Per Lyman 49th)

                          Beowulf
                          Large pistol magnum primer
                          500 S&W
                          Large rifle

                          So I ask you is this a pistol or rifle cartridge / round? and should we be exploring the (IMR 4227, N110, Enforcer and H110) more?


                          Thanks for your time everybody and please feel free to post your loads here, (bullets, powders, primers and OAL), I’ll updated every now and then..

                          Shaun.
                          Last edited by linkpimp; 09-13-2009, 07:14.

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                          • #14
                            50 or 500? Both leave a big hole!

                            Originally posted by linkpimp View Post
                            P.S. Team question.
                            I do have one big question I have been struggling with lately, even after reading 1000’s of post, is this a rifle round or a pistol round?.

                            I say that because I compare this round to the 500 S&W and they are almost identical to each other.

                            Beowulf
                            OAL = 2.200 (Per AA)
                            500 S&W
                            OAL = 2.280

                            Beowulf
                            400gr Jacketed FP + Viht N110 = 33gr Midle scale (per quick loads)
                            500 S&W
                            400gr jacketed FP + Viht N100 = 33gr Midle scale (Per Lyman 49th)

                            Beowulf
                            PSI / Pressure = ?? unkown
                            500 S&W
                            PSI / Pressure = (37k-47ishk)

                            Beowulf
                            Velocity = up to 1600 (per AA website)
                            500 S&W
                            Velocity = up to 1600 (Per Lyman 49th)

                            Beowulf
                            Large pistol magnum primer
                            500 S&W
                            Large rifle

                            So I ask you is this a pistol or rifle cartridge / round? and should we be exploring the (IMR 4227, N110, Enforcer and H110) more?
                            As far as our application is concerned this would be considered a rifle round I believe. We are dealing with mainly 16" or longer barrels and having to watch the max case pressure for fear of collapsing the base of the brass. But as you mentioned here that the 50 Beo and the 500sw are very similar, and indeed they are. I have made a 50 Beo out of a 500sw case, not easy but was fun. The 50 Beo and the 500sw are almost identical after the muzzle, but they achieve it in two different ways. Your numbers for the PSI of the 500sw are a bit off but to clarify, the 50 Beo runs from 22k -33kmax pressure, and works well at 30k. Where as the 500sw runs from 35k starting loads or specials to 50k-65kmax, with the chambers (of real S&W's) being proofed against failure to 90k. So the 500sw doubles the PSI to get the same effect as the 50 Beo with double the barrel length...hence the rifle label. And as far as quick loads I have noticed as well as some others, that some of the loads and data does not ring true. The 500sw is a much tougher chambering then the 50 Beo but by looking at them side by side you wouldnt know it. Oh and brass lengths are different, 50 Beo runs at 1.652" and the 500sw runs at 1.625".

                            GB

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                            • #15
                              Scary numbers!

                              Originally posted by aslepathewhl View Post
                              A quick question for experienced reloaders: I noticed the 334gr and the 600gr use lil' gun, but the 500 gr. use Reloader 7; why is that?

                              I use lil gun for all my loads. I have had no negative results with the lil gun. Reloader 7 is probably what they tested with to come up with the data.

                              33 grain Ranier is the closest to 334 I could find in the data.
                              Compare the following predicted by Q/L and form your own conclusions. REMEMBER!!! THESE ARE ONLY PREDICTIONS




                              Cartridge : .50 Beowulf
                              Bullet :.500, 335, FP Rainier
                              Useable Case Capaci: 57.523 grain H2O = 3.735 cm³
                              Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.150 inch = 54.61 mm
                              Barrel Length : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm
                              Powder : Hodgdon Lil'Gun


                              Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
                              incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
                              CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

                              Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
                              % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

                              -20.0 61 33.60 1492 1655 13700 3499 89.3 1.543
                              -18.0 63 34.44 1529 1740 14598 3617 90.6 1.497
                              -16.0 64 35.28 1567 1826 15549 3731 91.8 1.453
                              -14.0 66 36.12 1604 1914 16558 3841 92.9 1.412
                              -12.0 67 36.96 1641 2004 17627 3948 93.9 1.372
                              -10.0 69 37.80 1678 2095 18759 4050 94.9 1.333
                              -08.0 70 38.64 1715 2188 19960 4148 95.8 1.296
                              -06.0 72 39.48 1751 2281 21232 4242 96.6 1.261
                              -04.0 73 40.32 1787 2376 22581 4330 97.3 1.227
                              -02.0 75 41.16 1823 2473 24012 4413 97.9 1.195
                              +00.0 76 42.00 1859 2570 25523 4491 98.4 1.164
                              +02.0 78 42.84 1894 2668 27110 4563 98.9 1.134
                              +04.0 79 43.68 1929 2767 28780 4629 99.3 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
                              +06.0 81 44.52 1963 2867 30539 4690 99.6 1.078 ! Near Maximum !
                              +08.0 82 45.36 1997 2967 32390 4744 99.8 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
                              +10.0 84 46.20 2031 3068 34340 4793 99.9 1.026 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                              Boy Aslepathewhl, just being honest here...that does NOT sound right, and I'm referring to what numbers your program spit out. I have used up several pounds of H110 in my 500 and your grain charges here are almost identical to it! Now I understand there is a difference in primers but 44gr of H110 should be close to or just over 50k psi...and I know it will get EVERYONE'S attention at the range. I load 37-38.4 in the Wulf with only slight indications of case collapse, but these numbers sound down right scary in it. H110 and Lil'gun run almost the same numbers, with Lil'gun being favored by bill due to load sensitivity with H110.

                              IMHO I don't like this chart!!

                              And to your initial question, past 400grain I believe a slower powder would be a better choice to get smoother burn for the duration and the round being in the bore. R#7 I believe is a slower burning powder that doesnt have an initial spike like H110 or Lil'gun has. Hence the vastly different charge weights. They will both get the job done in a pinch but in many minds one powder is not good for all bullet weights.


                              GB
                              Last edited by GBorGH; 09-13-2009, 08:42.

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